Sock Trouble - Scratching My Head

I am trying my best to find a pattern for a plain sock using 4-ply Knit Picks Stroll Tweed. I really like the way the stitches look when I use circular needles US 1, 2.5mm. For the life of me, and I have been trying all summer, I can't find a pattern that fits me. I'm getting 10 stitches/in in plain stockinette, with 13 rows/in.

I have tried calculators online, proportionate formulas, some patterns that matched my measurements.

I've knit, ripped, reknit, ripped, etc. My big concern now is the integrity of the wool.

I know a lot of you guys are amazingly talented when it comes to socks. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Mark

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You do not say what you have tried or what your foot size is.
Here is a link to a very useful sock chart and pattern guide that may help:

http://files.meetup.com/355706/Basic%20Sock%20Chart.pdf

CLABBERS's picture

Hi Eric,
My shoe size is 10. I have tried Dave's Sock Cookbook, and the patterns from KnitFreedom.com, and a host of others. When I do worsted weight or DK socks, everything is fine. The chart looks interesting.

I belong to the Meet Up site too. Mine is focusing on hiking just now as a way to meet new friends in FL when I move. I hadn't thought of knitting. Duh.

Thanks.

Mark

Thor's picture

I have always used "Dave's Sock Cookbook" It is a free pattern, you can find it on Ravelry. It's more of a formula that you use your individual measurements then plug in your stitches per inch based on whatever yarn you are using. I have always had great results.

CLABBERS's picture

Thanks Thor.
Actually, the last thing I uses was "Dave's Sock Cookbook", and that's what made the sock grow too big. It is, at least, a start and I can always try modifying the numbers a bit.

Mark

KenInMaine's picture

Hi Mark,

I am currently working on a pair of socks for which I am using Yarmando's sock formula. He has a few versions and variations of his basic instruction. I am using the Evil Sock Genius Lessons pattern which allows you to use any yarn/needle combination and provides directions for a great fitting toe-up sock. You don't even have to do a separate gauge swatch. You just start at the toe and work up the foot. Once you've knitted a few inches you then measure gauge and plug that into his formula to give you the numbers you need for the rest of the sock. He also has a pattern called Mastermind which has some improvements to the pattern I am currently using. It doesn't offer as much freedom since it only has directions for five different sock sizes (which is still a lot!). Anyway, I'd highly recommend checking out his site and patterns. He's definitely done his research and has compiled a lot of great sock knitting info into his patterns, which are all free by the way. Good luck and let us know how you make out!

Ken

CLABBERS's picture

Thanks Ken. I've downloaded and printed the Evil Sock Genius pattern and the Redux version, as well as the Mastermind Resized. I see he is a fan of the Turkish cast on. Is that what you use? I like Judy's Magic Cast On. Do you think that would work as well using his instructions?

It is safe to say that I have some studying to do.

Thanks again.

Mark

KenInMaine's picture

Hi Mark,

You could certainly substitute any toe design that you'd like. More often than not I use the rounded Whirlpool toe that is featured in Cat Bordhi's "Personal Footprints" book. I really like the ease of execution and the fit. It's become my go-to toe. Here's a picture of it from another sock I made years ago:

Other than that, I'd say just try to get your number of stitches in line with whichever pattern your following. This may mean increasing up or down by a stitch or two. For example, with the toe that I used, the increases go in increments of 6. I ended up with 66 stitches and the Evil Sock Genius pattern had options for 64 or 68. I chose to decrease down to 64 for a slightly snugger fit. Now that I'm past the heel flap, working up the leg and have had a chance to try the fit, I'm impressed. The fit is snug but not tight, and very comfortable.

I will also tell you that I love the ease of the heel turn/heel flap and how I didn't end up with any holes at the top of the heel flap when starting back around the instep stitches. That was a nice surprise...no holes to tighten up later!

Ken

CLABBERS's picture

Ken, you are always so helpful. I like that toe as well. I think once my new life gets underway in FL, I am going to get busy and do some quiet research on socks by reading some books I intend to buy. Cat's book is on the list. I've been a bit distracted lately with my divorce to really concentrate, thus my inability to wrap my head around all things sock related now.
Thanks.
Mark

KenInMaine's picture

Hey Mark,

I'm sorry to hear about your divorce. While I don't know the circumstances,
any 'uncoupling' is a hard process. I hope that this will ultimately lead you to
a better place. You're in my thoughts!

Ken

Thunderhorse54's picture

The only help I can give is scratching my head for you...

Terry

Tallguy's picture

Oh Mark, you and your patterns!!! Why don't you just knit the sock and forget what pattern you are following. Socks are very simple to do.. just make your own pattern.

Recently, while on vacation at Mom's, I decided to knit her a pair of socks, since I had nothing much else to do. I start at the toe since it is easier that way for me to make them fit. I increased for the width of her foot -- I tried it on -- and then knit the foot for as long as I needed -- tried it on a few times, and then knit the heel, and then the leg. Nothing to it!

Of course, getting the second one to match was a bit harder, since I didn't count rows -- I made it to fit as I did the first. She likes them, they fit well, and that is all that matters.

Now, to do another pair for her without her foot nearby to measure is a little tricky! I didn't write down how many stitches round they were, or how long the foot was... so I have to wait until I am visiting again. If you are making them for yourself, your foot is always handy, so try it on, and just make it fit your foot! It's that simple, really. There is no need for some silly "pattern". You were misled. Time to live dangerously!

CLABBERS's picture

TallGuy - Perhaps a less acerbic tone might encourage me to explore more things on my own. Do forgive my need for patterns. I like them.

Here is a wonderful tutorial on the THE CORE RULES OF NETIQUETTE. Mind you, it's similar to a pattern, but we can all do with a bit of direction now and then. I especially like rule number 10.

http://www.albion.com/netiquette/corerules.html

Mark

Bill's picture

(grin)
Big hug for you, Mark!

BuduR's picture

There's nothing wrong with following patterns, I'm a follower as well.

I knit for the same reason I like to go out to eat. I want to sit and enjoy it. I want someone else to do the math, figure out the increasing and decreasing and all the other little things so I can just knit.

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