Ethics/etiquette question (and a technical question)

YugiDean's picture

I was writing up the pattern for my tri-colored flecked tweed hat and was planning on posting it to Ravelry, but then a question about ethics and etiquette dawned on me. I was inspired to make this hat by a stitch I found in a stitch book...just a book full of various types of stitches. Although the hat itself was just something I improvised, I'm wondering what ethics and etiquette would dictate is appropriate when writing up (and possibly selling) a pattern that uses a stitch type learned from a book or another similar source. Am I allowed to make and sell or give away a pattern using such a stitch? Does the fact that any one stitch can have a billion different names in a billion different books alleviate the idea of "stitch ownership"? Should I be crediting this book out of legal (or moral) obligation? Or is a pattern inspired by a stitch sole ownership of the individual who created the pattern?

Now, there's also a technical question. It wants me to provide a link to a .pdf. I know of plenty of photo-hosting websites, but where in the world do you host a .pdf file? And if I do decide to sell it, does it only take people there after they purchase it? I'm so confused. I'm about to just say, "Screw it." LOL

By the way...although I liked the name suggestions from some of you, I just decided to simplify the naming of my hat and called it "The Yugidean Hat" LOL So original, right? I used up all my originality on the Floobidy Hat. LOL

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I found a website called www.e-junkie.com that allows you to sell things directly through them, especially downloads. It's $5/month, though. I may need to shore up a few more patterns before I hand over money. I don't know how well patterns would really sell, anyway.

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mwkbloom's picture

You should also check out

You should also check out www.theknittingvault.com. I've bought some nice patterns there.

Crafty Andy's picture

Visit Crafty Andy's Blog If

Visit Crafty Andy's Blog If the stitch is copyrighted that's a different story, but I have not found any stitch that has been copyrighted. You copyright names and copyright techniques and patterns, but a stitch alone in not copyrightable because anyone can do it even without reading the book. Is like copyrighting a wheel. You can copyright the way you make your wheel, but you can not copyright the geometrical form.

teejtc's picture

Andy is right. Copyrights

Andy is right. Copyrights cover a particular "set form" of something - So, the particular rendering (pictures, directions, etc.) of a stitch in a particular book or website or CD can be copyrighted, but the process of making it cannot. (For the record, in the US, they are legally copyrighted upon being set in a particular form even if they are not marked as copyrighted.)

Theoretically, a process or a form can be patented but patents are very expensive and seldom (if ever) sought for basic-level craft processes like stitches.

Hope that helps.

Grace and peace,
`tim

YugiDean's picture

That makes a lot of sense.

That makes a lot of sense. That's kind of what I was thinking, but I just wanted to make sure. Thanks!!!

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albert's picture

Maybe just a note in your

Maybe just a note in your pattern such as "this pattern uses the_ stitch found in the book_ by _".

Veni, vidi, kniti.

Raymiew's picture

I won't answer the first

I won't answer the first part of your question, but I think you can post a pdf on box.net. I don't know how it works if you are selling it or even if it will work if you are giving it away. I just know that's a site I've used to share pdfs with friends before.

YugiDean's picture

Thanks! I'll take a look

Thanks! I'll take a look and see how that will work.

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MMario's picture

Yugi - If you post the

Yugi - If you post the pattern to Ravelry as an original design, and become a "designer" there, you should be capable of uploading the PDF to to Ravelry and linking it internaly. whoops! Looks like they haven't implemented that for purchase designs yet.

sorry.

WAIT! SEE:

http://www.ravelry.com/wiki/pages/RavelryPatternStore

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YugiDean's picture

Spectacular information. I

Spectacular information. I looked on their site, but I think I kept getting confused by all the verbiage. I think I've got it figured out now, though! LOL

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MMario's picture

They do tend to be a bit

They do tend to be a bit wordy.