Design? or dumb luck?

MMario's picture

I fudge around with patterns quite a bit - for a number of reasons.

Recently I wanted a simple lacey pattern for a mohair variagated yarn (need to get picture - promise soon) and came up with Fibonacci Eyelet Triangle.

If I do say so myself - it is working up beautifully. And usually when I do something like this it does.

Then I read various peoples blogs about how they swatch and calculate and rip and re-swatch and select a different yarn, etc,etc,etc. I think the most false starts I've ever made on a project was three, and two of them were less then 15 stitches.

So why is this? I put it sown to sheer dumb luck. Though I will admit normally it may be that subconsciously I put a lot more "thinking" time into a project then I am aware of - I know I like to have yarn marinate in stash a while when it hasn't been purchased with a specific project in mind - and it is rare that I don't have a pattern idea that mulls around for a few months in the back of my mind before I actually start it.

Whatever - I'm grateful so many of my projects come out in a manner I'm satisfied with. For example - the circular version of 'Progressive' I did earlier this year - - a whim; but it worked!

addendum - I've attached a picture of the tip portion of the triangle.

3/22/07 - the shawl has arrived in Scotland, where it will be the focus of a fund-raiser. They haven't decided whether to auction. raffle, or rent...

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MMario's picture

I've started playing around

I've started playing around with getting this written up with charts, etc.

MMario - I don't live in the 21st Century - but I sometimes play a character who does.

TomH's picture

Do I sense a knit-along down

Do I sense a knit-along down the path?

MMario's picture

That's not my decision;

That's not my decision; *grin*

but I thought that I'd whip it into shape for anyone who does want to knit it.

and a couple of variations...A top down double triangle and a square version.

MMario - I don't live in the 21st Century - but I sometimes play a character who does.

TomH's picture

Stupendous! The square

Stupendous! The square sounds really inticing. Will it be done from one edge all the way across via casting on a bazillion stitches? Or will it be done from the center out?

Tingling with anticipation.

MMario's picture

center out! Though now you

center out! Though now you have me thinking

curses!

MMario - I don't live in the 21st Century - but I sometimes play a character who does.

Ooh, that's lovely. Very

Ooh, that's lovely. Very nice solution for combining laciness with color changing yarn.

I loved Helga, too, she is so elegant and refined.

MMario's picture

mille grazie! MMario

mille grazie!

MMario

Celowin's picture

It came out very pretty, as

It came out very pretty, as well as mathematical. One of these days I'm going to have to try my hand at something more lacy.... Let's see, I think I have my next 10 projects planned, but maybe on the 11th....

MMario's picture

attached a picture of the

attached a picture of the finished shawl - 6 days start to finish - pretty sure that is a a record for me.

MMario - I don't live in the 21st Century - but I sometimes play a character who does.

TomH's picture

What's the size of the

What's the size of the finished shawl?

MMario's picture

Mine came out about 64

Mine came out about 64 inches wide by 32 deep. I'd have preferred a bit larger, but also wanted to stick to the "under 500 yards".

MMario

MMario's picture

Given that tom has found two

Given that tom has found two major errors within the first 25 rows, obviously my getting off the cuff patterns to work *is* attributable to sheer dumb luck. *grin*

MMario - I don't live in the 21st Century - but I sometimes play a character who does.

MMario's picture

I can't help my mind being

I can't help my mind being warped - I got caught out in a rainstorm as a young child and it got soaked through.

MMario - I don't live in the 21st Century - but I sometimes play a character who does.

Celowin's picture

As a mathematics instructor

As a mathematics instructor as well as a knitter, I have to say that I approve of this project.

Also, in the "more math than most people probably care about" area, I feel compelled to mention that the golden mean mentioned a couple times in the pattern is the limit of the ratio of successive numbers in the Fibonnacci sequence. That is, 5 to 3 is not far from the golden mean, but 89 to 55 is much closer...

MMario's picture

BTW - what this ends up

BTW - what this ends up doing is giving you a series of eyelet rows in "V's" that are parallel to the sides of the triangle. For a little variety I threw in pairs of eyelets up the center line that echo the fibonacci series as well - mainly because I was too lazy to get up and find a marker to mark the center point when it became harder to eyeball.

the rows of eyelets are at intervals that follow the 'Golden Mean' which for some reason is intrinsically pleasing to most.

MMario - I don't live in the 21st Century - but I sometimes play a character who does.

MMario's picture

It appears she has set the

It appears she has set the forum so that you can't read it unless you are a logged in member. very counter productive if you ask me.

Here's my Pattern:

Fibonacci Eyelet Triangle

based on the numberical series 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,34,55,89, etc so often found in nature.

size 10.5 US needles
approx 500 yards light fingering weight mohair

M2 = k1, yo, k1 in same stitch
_ _ _ _ _
Cast on 3

1) k1, M2, k1

2) and all even rows - purl

3) p2, M2, p2

5) p3, YO, k1, YO, p3

7) p3, YO, k3, YO, p3

9) p3, YO, k2tog, YO, k1, YO, skp, YO, p3

11) p3, YO, k2tog, YO, k3, YO, skp, YO, p3

13) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, (YO, skp,) x2, YO, p3

15) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k3, (YO, skp,) x2, YO, p3
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"oops"

rows between 16 and 17--
p3,YO,(k2tog,YO) x2; k5, (yo, skp)x2, yo, p3

purl back

Thanks tom for spotting this.
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17) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k1,yo, skp, k1, (YO, skp,) x2, YO, p3

19) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k3,yo, skp, k1, (YO, skp,) x2, YO, p3

21) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k5,yo, skp, k1, (YO, skp,) x2, YO, p3
_ _ _ _

CRAP! I did it again. missing a pair of rows here;

p3, yo, (k2tog,yo)x2; k1, k2tog, yo, k7, yo, skp, k1, (yo, skp)x2, YO, p3
and purl back

THANK YOU! to TomH who is "test knitting" (and thus proofing) this.
_ _ _ _ _

23) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, C-reverse #

(Note: # c-reverse; knit center stitch and then knit the instructions in reverse order, substituting skp for 2tog - as patterned in previous rows)

25) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k1,C-reverse #

27)p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k2,C-reverse #

29) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k3,C-reverse #

31) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4,C-reverse #

33) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k5,C-reverse #

35) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4, k2tog, yo,C-reverse #

37)p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4, k2tog, yo, k1,C-reverse #

39) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4, k2tog, yo, k2,C-reverse #

41) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4, k2tog, yo, k3,C-reverse #

43) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4, k2tog, yo, k4,C-reverse #

45) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4, k2tog, yo, k5,C-reverse #

47) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4, k2tog, yo, k6,C-reverse #

49) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4, k2tog, yo, k7,C-reverse #

51) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4, k2tog, yo, k8,C-reverse #

53) p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4, k2tog, yo, k7, k2tog,YO, C-reverse #

55) [Eyelet pattern as established in row 53] k1,c-reverse

57) [Eyelet pattern as established in row 53] k2tog, YO,, c-reverse

59) [Eyelet pattern as established ] k3,c-reverse

61) [Eyelet pattern as established] k2, k2tog, YO, c-reverse

63) [Eyelet pattern as established] k5,c-reverse

65) [Eyelet pattern as established] k4, k2tog, yo, c-reverse

67) [Eyelet pattern as established] k7,c-reverse

69) [Eyelet pattern as established] k8,c-reverse

71) [Eyelet pattern as established] k9,c-reverse

73) [Eyelet pattern as established] k8, k2tog, yo,c-reverse

75) [Eyelet pattern as established] k11,c-reverse

77) [Eyelet pattern as established] k12, c-reverse

79) [Eyelet pattern as established] k13,c-reverse

81) [Eyelet pattern as established] k12,k2tog, yo,c-reverse

Eyelet pattern becomes [p3, YO, (k2tog, YO) x2,k1, k2tog, yo, k2, k2tog, yo, k4, k2tog, yo, k7, k2tog,YO, k12, k2tog,YO]

83) [eyelet pattern] k1, c-reverse

85) [eyelet pattern] k2tog,YO, c-reverse

87) [Eyelet pattern ] k3,c-reverse

89) [Eyelet pattern] k2, k2tog, YO, c-reverse

91) [Eyelet pattern ] k5,c-reverse

93) [Eyelet pattern ] k4, k2tog, yo, c-reverse

95) [Eyelet pattern ] k7,c-reverse

97) [Eyelet pattern ] k8,c-reverse

99) [Eyelet pattern ] k9,c-reverse

101) [Eyelet pattern ] k8, k2tog, yo,c-reverse

103) [Eyelet pattern ] k11,c-reverse

105) [Eyelet pattern ] k12, c-reverse

107) [Eyelet pattern ] k13,c-reverse

109) [Eyelet pattern ] k14,c-reverse

111) [Eyelet pattern ] k15,c-reverse

113) [Eyelet pattern ] k14, k2tog, yo, c-reverse

115) [Eyelet pattern ] k16, c-reverse

117) [Eyelet pattern ] k17, c-reverse

119) [Eyelet pattern ] k18, c-reverse
121) [Eyelet pattern ] k19, c-reverse

123) [Eyelet pattern ] k20, c-reverse

125) [Eyelet pattern ] k21, c-reverse

127) [Eyelet pattern ] k20, k2tog, YO, c-reverse

25 to 30* more rows in pattern; 4 rows garter, bind off loosely.

(for the best proportions 30 rows in pattern then the 4 rows of garter would approch the golden mean)

MMario - I don't live in the 21st Century - but I sometimes play a character who does.

Waaaaaaw . . . I can't get

Waaaaaaw . . . I can't get into that site to see the pattern.

Damn! I hate it when that happens . . .

~Mike in Tampa
Yahoo Id: stickywarp2001

Imagination is Everything.
It is the preview of Life's coming attractions.

TomH's picture

Mike, I think that site is

Mike,

I think that site is just having problems right now. I was able to get into it earlier today, but now I can't either.

MMario's picture

I've confirmed that the

I've confirmed that the forum has been set to members only reading - why I don't know since the owner says she WANTS to attract more people.

MMario - I don't live in the 21st Century - but I sometimes play a character who does.

TomH's picture

Can't wait to see a picture

Can't wait to see a picture of Fibonacci Eyelet Triangle. Look forward to your posting. Think I'll try a test swatch so I can see the pattern for myself.