Some plain toe-ups

bobinthebul's picture

The fiddler in our oldtime group likes to wear as many colors as possible, so when I saw this yarn I decided she should have a pair of socks knit from it. So now she does. :)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-n8qjhjTvSJE/Uod9X4edlLI/AAAAAAAASSs/oo8ydgH-Eys/w781-h586-no/Knittin%2527+-+1

It's a pretty standard toe-up pattern, but I like what I call the 'Balıkesir toe' (for no reason other than that I've only seen it on socks knit by a bunch of women from Balıkesir, a few hours south of Istanbul). You do your choice of 8-stitch caston, then instead of increasing on each side of the instep every other round, you increase on only one side, every round. The result is a gradual twist, so that by the time you reach your final number of stitches, the toe caston is vertical. I do the increases at the beginning of the rows for one sock, and at the end of the rows for the other.

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ILHIKER's picture

I wonder if we could make it

I wonder if we could make it the same in a toe-up pattern with the increases just on one side.

Tom Hart's picture

I'm dead intrigued by the

I'm dead intrigued by the 'Balıkesir toe'. (By the way what is the letter between the "l" and the "k"?). It sounds like a very interesting toe all around. My preference is cuff-down but I think I'll try it on my next toe by decreasing one every round on only one side and see what happens.

These women knitters of Balıkesir must have talked to you and explained to you what they were doing... How did that happen, if you don't mind telling?

bobinthebul's picture

The letter is the dotless "i"

The letter is the dotless "i" (check out http://www.balikesir.com/). I keep forgetting it doesn't display here, along with the dotted capital i.

I think you could do it cuff down as well, why not? The "seam" might be more obvious since you get a larger stitch when you do a decrease, and especially an SSK (though doing it every row might make it less wobbly). Now I'm tempted to just knit a toe that way and see how it looks.

The ladies from Balikesir - There is a group of women from one of Balikesir's villages who come into Istanbul in the fall and sell knit goods through the winter. They sit at various spots up and down the central street of the old city, on pedestrian overpasses, etc. I've talked with them several times, and bought a pair of socks from them as well. I was intrigued by the toe, and pretty much just guessed how it was done by looking at it. Tried it and it was identical.

Tom Hart's picture

I just finished a cuff-down

I just finished a cuff-down sock with the Balikesir toe, decreasing on-one-side-only every row. And I have to say that, to my mind, it's the "right" way to do toe decreases. The decreases start at the little toe and follow the line of the foot up to the big toe along the top edge of the foot. It's kind of perfect. It really makes the sock perfectly follow the shape of the foot. Even when the sock is not on, it still looks like a foot. I think it's much better and just all around more appropriate than the other way. I don't think I quite understood what you meant in your original post about a "gradual twist" and the cast on being "vertical". There's no twisting at all when you DECREASE that way and the final kitchener stitch just lays right across the top of the big toe and the one next to it. I'm going to take some pictures of it and do a post on it. It just seems like a more obvious (and "correct") way to make a sock. I'm so glad you mentioned this!

The internet is so amazing. Here I am in San Francisco getting an idea on how to make a sock from a group of women in Turkey via an American knitterman in Istanbul. Free of charge. If you ever see those women again, please tell them I said, "Thank you very much!"

Joe-in Wyoming's picture

Thanks for the comment - and

Thanks for the comment - and future posting - on this, Tom. I may try it out on the next pair of socks. It should be interesting to see how my results turn out.

I've been taking a bit of a break as I wait on the yarn to suggest something to me, having just wrapped up a long term sock project. I can't decide if I want to knit another pair of socks or try out another idea. Meanwhile I have a few smaller projects to keep my fingers busy.

ILHIKER's picture

Nicely done Bob. I prefer

Nicely done Bob. I prefer toe-up socks. I am curious as to why the Balıkesir toe increase is a good one? Why is the twist a good thing? I like the colors of the striping as well.

Mark

bobinthebul's picture

Here's a good close-up of

Here's a good close-up of it.

http://www.ravelry.com/projects/bobinthebul/denises-toe-up-socks

bobinthebul's picture

I just like the effect; I

I just like the effect; I don't know if it's necessarily better than any other.

Nehkhasi's picture

These made me smile! Nice!

These made me smile! Nice! Cool Colour work!

bobinthebul's picture

Ha, I wish I could take the

Ha, I wish I could take the credit for the colour work; it's just a rather wild self-striping yarn! The only thing I really did was wind through to make sure the socks would be identical twins. ;)

Nehkhasi's picture

Nice Work! :-)

Nice Work! :-)

bobinthebul's picture

Tanks. :)

Tanks. :)

Thunderhorse54's picture

I rather like those!

I rather like those!