How to add a hole?

michaelpthompson's picture

Seems strange I want to add a hole to my knitting, when I first started, I had way too many. However, this is a different sort of hole.

Here's a pattern for a tea cozy that looks like an elephant. I thought it was really cute. She did it in two halves, then sewed them together, leaving holes for the handle and spout of the teapot.

But that made me wonder if this could be done in the round, losing the seam. The only real obstacle I can see is how to leave the holes for handle and spout. (Think of the little teapot, short and stout, "This is my handle, this is my spout.")

I found how to make a buttonhole on knittinghelp.com, but that's lateral. This needs to be vertical. Is this possible? And does anyone know how to do it?

Joe-in Wyoming's picture

You are right, Michael, it

You are right, Michael, it is just like a sweater knit to the armhole and then worked as 2 flaps and rejoined. It is a cute pattern and should be fun, if challenging. -- Books, knitting, cats, fountain pens...Life is Good.

jwhassjr's picture

All good suggestions. I

All good suggestions. I believe you could also do a couple of steeks. Then you could knit up stitches to finish around the steeks.

michaelpthompson's picture

I thought of steeks, but

I thought of steeks, but that always seems like cheating somehow. It's definitely one of my options though.

Tallguy's picture

What you need to do is the

What you need to do is the sample "sweater" from Jacqueline Fee's "Sweater Workshop". She has you do the very same thing... after that, you will never be stumped by a thing like this.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sweater-Workshop-Creative-Seam-Free-Sweaters/dp/0892725338
Very useful book in every guy's workbag.

purlyman's picture

I would give doing it in the

I would give doing it in the round a try... I avoid knitting and sewing pieces together at all costs!!! :-)

michaelpthompson's picture

I'm not sure about "all

I'm not sure about "all costs" but I would prefer to do it in the round rather than seam it. I would think the seam would give a lump or something.

I'm thinking more and more about this. I could start off at the bottom with a circular needle, then switch to straight needles for the slits, and do part of it with dpns where there's only one hole, as the one for the spout would stop earlier than the one for the handle. Something to think about anyway.

Bill's picture

Michael, I think you can

Michael,
I think you can tailor the shape to each pot....depending where the spout and handle spring off the pot...

Bill's picture

For the spout...it could be

For the spout...it could be done the way you do an armscye for a sweater, but join the "body" again above the spout. For the back handle...it would be just like an armscye...probably with a button at the top.
...so you would join in a new piece of yarn, and knit back and forth...
I think you could only knit in the round for the bottom part...

michaelpthompson's picture

So are you saying to do it

So are you saying to do it kind of like a sweater knit in the round, like where you knit in the round up to the armholes, then knit each side flat and join them at the top?

Bill's picture

Exactly...join the two above

Exactly...join the two above the spout...but the handle is probably a slot all the way to the top...sort of depends on the Teapot shape.

michaelpthompson's picture

She doesn't have a photo of

She doesn't have a photo of the handle side, so it's hard to say about that, but the spout hold starts very near the bottom. Perhaps this explains why she did it in two pieces. There wouldn't be much round before the flat bits anyway.

I wonder if I could do it in the round up to the spout, then flat for a couple of inches, then join back to the round above that, not just seam it like shoulders. Maybe just put some increased stitches at the back to leave room for the handle on the inside.

I don't know, maybe I should just make it the way she specifies. It's just that I think doing it with a seam wouldn't look as good as "in the round." Maybe I'm getting prejudiced that way.

Crafty Andy's picture

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You work on the round and then you can bind off stitches where the holes go, you see the piece does not connect until about 10 or so rows from the bottom, at the spoout; then you will cast on the stitches you bound off. Hope this helps. You don't need to do anything in the flat, just be mindful of bindoff in the right places, then after you have made the hole big enough , you want to cast on and continue to knit, at the end you will decrease. You will probably make the ears and attach them or be bravely pick up stitches and knit on.

michaelpthompson's picture

The pattern does call for

The pattern does call for making the ears separately, though I suppose if I were really ambitious I could start them by picking up stitches on the sides.

TheKnittingMill's picture

That's what I was thinking,

That's what I was thinking, like for vertical buttonholes. The project is a really cute idea!

michaelpthompson's picture

Now I'm really confused, cuz

Now I'm really confused, cuz Andy's description sounds like regular buttonholes. I'm having trouble envisioning this with vertical ones. If I just bind off and cast on, won't the holes be horizontal?

After reading this, I did look at some descriptions of vertical buttonholes, and they all involved starting a new strand of yarn, but you don't mention that. And I'm not sure how that would work in the round anyway. Maybe I'll have to try it and see. I'm very much a kinetic learner.