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New York Built's picture

That has been my usual behavior when I need to join two strands of yarn. However, of late, I have been working with 100% linen, on lace needles, making Filet Mesh stitch into a "wife beater" or male tank top. The method above, is , well....flaccid.

As I near the end of the first skein, I now have a small hurdle. What's the best way to join the next skein? Russian Join did not work well in experiment. Neither did the split thread method. The online resources are remarkably silent.

Any suggestions? My project bottom anxiously awaits the top.

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Kerry's picture

I'm knitting with linen

I'm knitting with linen sport weight on a project and have used the Elizabeth Zimmerman join, i.e. knit one stitch with both yarns and weave the ends in later.

Nashrunner's picture

Well, I am not sure this is

Well, I am not sure this is going to work with a mesh texture, but in ordinary stuff, I knit one stitch with one strand from the old skein together with one of the new, then strand in the ends on the back side, like "floats" in Fair Isle work. This sounds like too much business on the backside for your application. Sure you can't take the plies apart, cut them to different lengths and sort of graft them together like in spinning? I have had success in doing that with lace weight silk/wool blends but haven't tried with linen. Would love to make myself just such a shirt. Care to share the "recipe"? :-)

New York Built's picture

See my previous post

See my previous post entitled Lace'd Not, Want Knot-The Lover Tank #1 and 2. Have fun! I am doing mine in Filet Mesh.

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New York Built's picture

Found the best

Found the best recommendation yet. In the row BELOW a stitch reduction, even if a yarn over, do one YO with the end of the old yarn, the next with the start of the old, tie off the two gently. When you reach that point on the next round, do the decreases with the YO's, with the joinless join BETWEEN the decreases, so it is buried into the stitch. The following purl will lock in as usual. The hanging yarn ends can then be woven back into the knot almost invisibly and with little fear of it falling out when trimmed.

"Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends."
– Francis Bacon

mrossnyc's picture

I don't know how this would

I don't know how this would look with linen/lace, but how about doing it PGR-style?
Knit the two ends together for two stitches on a part that doesn't have YO's (if possible). Leave enough to weave in later.

Once those double stranded stitches come off the needle on the next round or later, gently pull the tail behind each stitch, pulling the extra yarn into the work and possibly (b/c it's linen) reducing the bulk of the two stitches together. She mentions doing this with color-stranded knitting in the round in Knitting in the Old Way. It worked for me, but it was also wool, so I'm not sure how it would look with linen.

New York Built's picture

Thanks Michael, I tried that

Thanks Michael, I tried that PGR-style method when I reached a tie-in on the skein early in the game. Slipped out all too easily and left me with a big hole to laboriously repair. I think Aage's method is best so far...stays in almost the same diameter, doesn't pull out under tension, doesn't slip out when relaxed, holds and works with the biggest interlocked stitch (Filet Lace is two YO's turned into two decrease stitches, then locked with a purl. Thick little bundle already.) His suggestion and drawing works the best in this case.

"Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends."
– Francis Bacon

aah's picture

I made something wrong, but

I made something wrong, but my little drawing can be found in immage gallery/assessories.
Hope this can help you
Aage

New York Built's picture

This works well, Aage.

This works well, Aage. Thanks. I can also use this for leather lacing, as well.

"Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends."
– Francis Bacon

aah's picture

When I knit Shetland shawls

When I knit Shetland shawls with 1-ply wool I always splice the yarn like my enclosed drawing. I sew the last/first 5 cm together with a pointed needle. Then I just knit on. The short piece with double yarn is nearly invisible.
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WillyG's picture

Can't really help you...I

Can't really help you...I just learned a week back that the Russian join and the split-n-spit exist. I'm a fan.

Aaronknits's picture

If I can't spit and splice I

If I can't spit and splice I tie a knot. I know, I'm such a rebel! I do always try to join in a place where the knot won't be noticed.

BuduR's picture

I would probably just start

I would probably just start the new yarn as if I were already knitting with it, this leaves 2 ends that you will have to weave in later, but this is how I join another yarn when felting or the russian join won't work.

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