Cast On Under Sleeve?

MasonM's picture

OK, I am not quite there yet on this sweater, but soon I'll be to the point where I will be slipping the sleeve stitches onto a holder and will have to cast on a few stitches under the arm.

I have been thinking about this, and maybe I am over thinking it, but which cast on method is best for this? I was thinking of a simple single cast on (reverse loop) but now am not so sure.

With a single cast on, won't those cast on stitches not be actually attached to the rest of the work above them and leave some sort of hole or gap after knitting back around and through them? Or am I thinking wrong?

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VillageKnittiot's picture

I prefer a knitted cast on

I prefer a knitted cast on for the underarm. The backwards loop seems to get too loose and uneven for me. (could just be me though). Also a knitted cast on has a little more meat to it and seems a bit more stable.

MasonM's picture

Thanks, I'm pretty sure

Thanks, I'm pretty sure that's the way I'm gonna go with it.

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MasonM's picture

Thanks Andy. No extra arms

Thanks Andy. No extra arms LOL

Doh! I just realized that what's going to be above those cast on stitches is the arm HOLE. Of course they won't be attached because it's a HOLE. LOL What was I thinking?

I still wonder if the single cast on will work ok for this?

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MMario's picture

I'd use a knit on; but

I'd use a knit on; but that's about all I ever use.

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MasonM's picture

Thanks, but is there a

Thanks, but is there a specific reason why, or is it just personal choice? I've never actually used the single cast on so am not sure how it looks or behaves.

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MMario's picture

well, if you don't want to

well, if you don't want to involve extra pieces of yarn, (in other words, keep it simple)
there are basically two cast-ons you could use;

the backwards loop/single cast on; or some variation of the knit cast on.

The backwards loop cast on isn't known for being the most stable - the loops tend to grow on you as you progress and end up looking sloppy.

Knitting on the additional stitches gives you the simplicity of not having to add another piece of yarn from somewhere; is more stable then the backwards loop; and can, if you so desire, be done "in pattern" if you are doing a knit/purl stitch. In addition, I feel it gives you more to work with when you get to the pick up stitches point.

YMMV

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Thanks, that's exactly what

Thanks, that's exactly what I needed to know. I appreciate the info. I'll go with the knit cast on then.

Mason

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Crafty Andy's picture

Visit Crafty Andy's Blog

Visit Crafty Andy's Blog You can pick up stitches , meaning go through the loops and pick up the yarn, a top down may be seamless, but you can do it all at once, unless you are hidding a couple of extra arms from us lol!

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Also when you go through the loops depending on how far you go into the knitted garment you have like a false edge . There are many methods of casting on, at least 10 different ways, what matters is what you want to do. I would not want to sew anything so I will pull up the stitches through the loops. You may be able to also use some provisional yarn to holds the lower part of your sleeves, the underarm, while you work on the sleeves.

If you are not hung up on the idea of one piece, but instead on a seamless sweater, you can cast on the sleeves on different needles, finish them then then do a three needle bind-off from the sweater the sleeve, which will be a seamless union to the body of your sweater. You can also do a kitchener bind off grafting with two needles. You can also do a tubular Cast on that will give you a nice edge to do your seaming. I will say is your first Sweater keep it simple or dare to experiment, it will be your creation and we shall admire it!

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Thanks Andy. I'm pretty

Thanks Andy. I'm pretty committed to this one being a seamless, in the round sweater. As it's raglan a good portion of the sleeves are already started so doing them separately is out at this point.

I just need to cast on about 4 new stitches below the arm hole once I slip the live sleeve stitches onto a holder. I'm keeping this one fairly simple as it's my first one but am finding it fun to just do a little math and knit it up without following someone else's pattern.

Right now I'm just trying to apply what I have learned from reading about sweater construction, and make sure I can apply that information. My next one will have some cable work in it.

Mason

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