Joining yarn with a knot

ronhuber's picture

Have any of you guys used this knot?? I usually use the spit join but am knitting a shawl with Madelinetosh superwash merino and it doesn't felt. My sister-in-law sent me the link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=-nq_7EXTWHE

Or do you have other suggestions? For example, could I just knit the two together for 5 stitches and weave in the ends later. I have always knitted lace with wool and never noticed this was superwash before I bought it.

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michaelpthompson's picture

I've been doing almost

I've been doing almost exactly the same thing since before I knew any better, and I still do. I use a square knot, but I like her use of the double overhand knot as well. The secret, as she indicates, is to pull it very tight. Makes the knot nearly as small as the yarn itself, and therefore nearly invisible, and there are no ends to weave in. The knot makes me feel much more secure than just weaving in the ends and leaving them to fend for themselves.

I also cut the ends very short like that, and once in a great while it will come untied, but as long as my knot is tied correctly and pulled very tight before cutting, that's very rare. I did have one come loose in felting yesterday, but fortunately, I had tied two knots and the first held, so I just snipped the end off where the second had slipped out.

I pretty much always do this at the end of a row. Started it for color changes, but if I start a new ball of yarn, I always do it at the end of the row as well. With garter stitch, for instance, it's not visible at all. Might be more noticeable if I ever remember to slip one of the end stitches for a smooth edge.

So I thought I was a knitting heretic, but now I know I'm magic. :-)

akkamaddi's picture

The fisherman's knot, yes!

The fisherman's knot, yes! (At least that's the name I learned. Probably wrong. I learned to do this on fishing line.) This is how I joined yarn until I learned the Russian join, and I still use it on projects where I can't weave the yarn into itself. I don't cut it close like she does, though. If you un-twist the threads of a yarn, even fine yarn, it's easier to stitch into other segments of yarn.

Tallguy's picture

Oh this was scary! I find

Oh this was scary! I find that the Russian join is probably the neatest of all. I will double the yarns, knit several stitches, and that will hold nicely. With bulky yarns, you need to find another solution.

I have used the stranded knitting method and that seems to be quite invisible from the front, but does leave short floats on the back. This is alright for a sweater, but not for a scarf. Each stitch keeps its neighbours in place and they don't come apart.

When all else fails, you can always change yarns at the seam, and then hide the ends in the seam, if using one.

I was told long ago that you never ever make a knot in your yarns in knitting. No matter how carefully you hide the knot, it will always ALWAYS work its way to the front, and it will ALWAYS appear right over your left boob, even if knitting socks! I've taken that advice to heart, and have never put knots in my yarns, and have never wanted to tempt fate by having that knot appear in awkward places!

superi's picture

For bulky yarns you can use

For bulky yarns you can use a Russian join too, it just takes a little bit more work. What you do is unravel the plies on each end of yarn two to three inches separating the plies. Then cut out half the plies on each strand of yarn. Grab your yarn needle and thread one of your half yarn sections on. Now overlap your strands like you would for a Russian join, and take the yarn needle and weave the half plies section back into the whole plies section of the same strand for about an inch or so; do it again for the other strand of yarn. Finally pull each end snug so there is no loops showing in the half plies section, and trim off the ends. This works best when there are more than 2plies of yarn.

Here's a video that might clarify:

http://youtu.be/EVWgbEBkEkA

CLABBERS's picture

This looks like a neat little

This looks like a neat little trick. I like it. It does, however, send shivers up my spine because she cuts so close to the knot, but it also makes sense because of the physics behind the way a double knot works. Sailors and boy scouts have been using the double knot forever with great success. Of course, they don't trim the excess like she does, but it's worth a try. Thanks for sharing the link with us.

Mark

Crafty Andy's picture

I have used the Russian join

I have used the Russian join with lots of success. I would not trust anything with a knot.

superi's picture

I've not seen this join

I've not seen this join before, but I don't know if I'd trust. I don't like how she cuts those ends so short at the knots. Depending on what type of yarn you're using and wether it's a slippery fiber, I could see those knots coming undone over time and causing a hole in your knitting. My favorite join is either the Russian join or just holding the ends double for about two to three inches when I can't spit splice. Both those methods work and when you're done you don't have to weave the ends in any more and just snip them off.

Tom Hart's picture

Thanks SO much for this, Ron.

Thanks SO much for this, Ron. I've bookmarked it. I think this may turn into my favorite new join. Like Chris, I've been using the braided join up till now but this looks a lot easier. I'll try it out the next time I need to join some yarn.

DiscoB75's picture

I wish I had seen this video

I wish I had seen this video two skeins ago. Looks tight and tiny.

cacunn's picture

I have not used this knot but

I have not used this knot but will try it soon. I have been using the braided join.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-u66X5RYjc

But the knot would be simpler.

Thank You