Hey Men, I was just wondering if there is any way to keep the edges of my knitting from curling in stockinette, and just plain knitting. I keep having this problem and don't know how to correct it.
Hey, man. I just feel this is where blocking (which I HATE, don't know why) comes into play. Stockinette (being the most popular stitch), does require some love and handling when its done. Unfortunately, the curl will happen, but wet the bugger when you're done. Give it a nice soaking, squeeze out the water, and lay it flat inbetween some towels, then place a heavy book ontop. Your piece will end up flat. (I don't know why, but blocking and weaving in the ends are my least favorite things about knitting).
That is why you use stocking stitch -- because you want it to curl. If you don't, then you have to make some adjustments.
The knitting will curl because you have uneven forces in the knit stitch (a purl is only the reverse of a knit) That is, the front of a knit stitch tends to want to pull forward, while the back tends to push outwards. The combined forces from front and back will cause the fabric to curl towards the knit side. Scarves will curl upwards.
This same situation also causes the sides to curl outwards!
The solution is to have even forces along the edges. That is, you need the same number of knits and purls. That is why garter stitch is a good thing to use for borders on scraves. You can also use garter stitch along the edges too. You don't need much -- as few as 1, 2 or 3 stitches usually will do it. You can also use other stitch patterns that uses equal knit and purls such as moss stitch, or seed stitch, or rib.
You can use this to your advantage in some situations, such as the roll brim hat, or the rolled collar and cuffs on sweaters or socks.
Here's a link to TechKnitter's blog, which gives you a much more thorough explanation of what's going on. Particularly helpful may be the links at the end of the post, a four-part series in which she explores solutions to the same problem you're facing.
I love using good old stockinette in something that doesn't have 'edges'... like a hat that wraps around continuously, or a sweater panel or afghan square that may be seamed to pieces on either side. Basically, as has been said, the hard reality of stockinette is that it's just not comfortable flying solo in a flat piece of knitting. He needs a friend to keep him straight. The types of friends that come to his aid are many and varied.
I sound weird, talking about knitting like that. Forgive me.
If you like the look of stockinette but need a standalone piece that doesn't curl on itself, a couple of similar-looking options would be double-knitting (ending up as if you had magically fused the ends into a continuous tube and pressed it flat) or --believe it or not-- K1, P1 ribbing. The latter is completely balanced ribbing and will not curl at all, but it pulls in on itself so much that it looks very similar to stockinette. This is a great option for a scarf, though it is a pain until your patience for ribbing increases. Eventually, you may find 1x1 ribbing as mindless as stockinette.
Hi Dennis,
Stockinette stitch does curl because of the type of stitch it is. If you use a garter stitch for a few rows at the start of a scarf and then four or five stitches at the beginning of a row and then at the end of a row, that should do the trick. I find that when I make scarves, I like to do a rib stitch, such as K2, P2 all across the row. I just finished one using that combo of stitches and it didn't curl at all. I also use the K2,P2 when knitting the first 2 inches or so of a stocking hat using circular needles and then just knit all around and around and around. I am a beginning myself, knitting just since this past September and found the rolling frustrating as well. Of course, some like the rolling effect on a hat, scarf, or neck of a sweater. I hope this helps.
Mark
I know how annoying that can be! Sometimes you can fix it by putting in a right-side facing purl row about two rows into a stockinette stitch. In plain knitting, the same technique might work if you put in two rows of stockinette stitch about two rows into the work. It interrupts the uniformity of the pattern, but if you think of it as a sort of decorative edging it helps. (you might also try the cable cast on method and double the wool for the cast on and first row, which gives a heavier edge that can hold things down) Good luck!
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Hey, man. I just feel this
Hey, man. I just feel this is where blocking (which I HATE, don't know why) comes into play. Stockinette (being the most popular stitch), does require some love and handling when its done. Unfortunately, the curl will happen, but wet the bugger when you're done. Give it a nice soaking, squeeze out the water, and lay it flat inbetween some towels, then place a heavy book ontop. Your piece will end up flat. (I don't know why, but blocking and weaving in the ends are my least favorite things about knitting).
That is why you use stocking
That is why you use stocking stitch -- because you want it to curl. If you don't, then you have to make some adjustments.
The knitting will curl because you have uneven forces in the knit stitch (a purl is only the reverse of a knit) That is, the front of a knit stitch tends to want to pull forward, while the back tends to push outwards. The combined forces from front and back will cause the fabric to curl towards the knit side. Scarves will curl upwards.
This same situation also causes the sides to curl outwards!
The solution is to have even forces along the edges. That is, you need the same number of knits and purls. That is why garter stitch is a good thing to use for borders on scraves. You can also use garter stitch along the edges too. You don't need much -- as few as 1, 2 or 3 stitches usually will do it. You can also use other stitch patterns that uses equal knit and purls such as moss stitch, or seed stitch, or rib.
You can use this to your advantage in some situations, such as the roll brim hat, or the rolled collar and cuffs on sweaters or socks.
Thanks guys, you have been a
Thanks guys, you have been a great help. I really appreciate you. I'm so thankful we have this site. If I can ever be helpful to you just let me know.
Dennis
Here's a link to
Here's a link to TechKnitter's blog, which gives you a much more thorough explanation of what's going on. Particularly helpful may be the links at the end of the post, a four-part series in which she explores solutions to the same problem you're facing.
http://techknitting.blogspot.com/2007/03/mysteries-of-knitting-part-1-tale-of.html
I love using good old stockinette in something that doesn't have 'edges'... like a hat that wraps around continuously, or a sweater panel or afghan square that may be seamed to pieces on either side. Basically, as has been said, the hard reality of stockinette is that it's just not comfortable flying solo in a flat piece of knitting. He needs a friend to keep him straight. The types of friends that come to his aid are many and varied.
I sound weird, talking about knitting like that. Forgive me.
If you like the look of stockinette but need a standalone piece that doesn't curl on itself, a couple of similar-looking options would be double-knitting (ending up as if you had magically fused the ends into a continuous tube and pressed it flat) or --believe it or not-- K1, P1 ribbing. The latter is completely balanced ribbing and will not curl at all, but it pulls in on itself so much that it looks very similar to stockinette. This is a great option for a scarf, though it is a pain until your patience for ribbing increases. Eventually, you may find 1x1 ribbing as mindless as stockinette.
It's the nature of
It's the nature of stockinette Dennis. The suggestions above will help, and if it's wool, you can block it afterward, which also helps.
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"All knitting is just one stitch at a time."
Tallguy
Hi Dennis, Stockinette
Hi Dennis,
Stockinette stitch does curl because of the type of stitch it is. If you use a garter stitch for a few rows at the start of a scarf and then four or five stitches at the beginning of a row and then at the end of a row, that should do the trick. I find that when I make scarves, I like to do a rib stitch, such as K2, P2 all across the row. I just finished one using that combo of stitches and it didn't curl at all. I also use the K2,P2 when knitting the first 2 inches or so of a stocking hat using circular needles and then just knit all around and around and around. I am a beginning myself, knitting just since this past September and found the rolling frustrating as well. Of course, some like the rolling effect on a hat, scarf, or neck of a sweater. I hope this helps.
Mark
I know how annoying that can
I know how annoying that can be! Sometimes you can fix it by putting in a right-side facing purl row about two rows into a stockinette stitch. In plain knitting, the same technique might work if you put in two rows of stockinette stitch about two rows into the work. It interrupts the uniformity of the pattern, but if you think of it as a sort of decorative edging it helps. (you might also try the cable cast on method and double the wool for the cast on and first row, which gives a heavier edge that can hold things down) Good luck!