Combined Knitting, right-leaning decrease

2manyhobbies's picture

At MSRT I took the combined knitting workshop... i guess i knew i was a combined knitter, because i'd had other people tell me that, but i didn't really know what it meant. I had learned how to knit by pondering Mary Thomas' book years ago, and she described both methods, and I ended up just cobbling something together as I learned. At first I was twisting all of my stitches on flat knitting, until I went back and tinkered with my purl, and ended up doing combined knitting.

It was only at the workshop (thank you Ted) that I learned what this really meant, and finally understood how most other people knitted. But, one thing I was not able to figure out during the workshop was a good way to do a right-leaning decrease. When you're a combined knitter, a left-leaning decrease is easy - you just K2tog.

Finally I got something to work : I slip the first stitch regular, slip the second one so as to twist the stitch, move both stitches back onto the left had needle, and then K2tog from the front. But that seems unduly painful.

So this morning, I discovered two things. The first is that I can knit while riding the recumbent exercise bike :). The second was that another way to get the right-leaning decrease is to anticipate it in the previous row and twist the stitch (which will be the second of the two stitches knitted together on the next row) as you're making it. That works a lot better - I just have to K2tog from the front then on the next row.

Does anyone know another way for a combined knitter to do a right-leaning decrease without having to anticipate ahead a row and without having to transfer stitches from the left needles to the right and then back again?

Kenny's picture

This is what you do to get a

This is what you do to get a Right Leaning Decrease for combined knitting:

Slip next two stitches one at a time onto the right hand needle. Slip them back to the left hand needle one at a time, twisting them clockwise so the leading edge is facing away from the tip of the needle. Insert right needle into the leading edges of the next two sts together and knit these sts together.

2manyhobbies's picture

Thanks, Kenny :) I think

Thanks, Kenny :) I think that's close to what I was doing, although for some reason it worked for me twisting just one of the two stitches - probably because I was twisting the k2tog stitch as I made it?

Thomasknits's picture

The reason it works to twist

The reason it works to twist just the second stitch is that when you do that, the stitch on top of the decrease ends up with the untwisted orientation and the one one the bottom ends up being a twisted stitch. Some people purposefully do this in Western knitting to make a tighter left leaning decrease, so it might be good for you to try both reorienting just the second stitch or reorienting both and see which decrease you like the look of better.
-Thomas

Kenny's picture

really, in my opinion,

really, in my opinion, whatever you get in the end result is what you want. but ending up with one of the 2 sts twisted isn't the way i would do it.

MMario's picture

k2tog is a left leaning

k2tog is a left leaning decrease in combined knitting?

wow - that would screw me up royal....k2tog is a right leaning decrease for me.

2manyhobbies's picture

it is! that's because

it is! that's because you're coming in through the back side of the loops right-to-left with the right needle to hook the yarn (without wrapping) top-to-bottom and pulling it through.

YarnGuy716's picture

This reminds me that it was

This reminds me that it was already a week ago that our workshop group was sitting in the temple at Easton while Ted taught us Combined Knitting. I would rather be back there. :-)

I could only imagine the looks I would get at the gym if I brought my Men's Knitting Retreat back pack and pulled out a WIP to work on while on the exercise bike.

2manyhobbies's picture

Fortunately (?) my exercise

Fortunately (?) my exercise bike is in my basement, and the only one giving me weird looks is my cat, Midge .. but she does that anyways :)